Chip Conley is celebrating his 20th anniversary as founder and CEO of California’s largest boutique hotel company, Joie de Vivre Hospitality. But his is not a business story about uninterrupted success. Instead, at a low point, Chip turned to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs to guide him and he is sharing what he learned in his book, PEAK: How Great Companies Get Their Mojo from Maslow.

Also with us is Alan Crogan, Chief Probation Officer with the Riverside County, California, Probation Department. We will talk to Alan about how to reduce the number of men and women in our prisons and still keep our streets safe. He has a long career in community corrections in California, having served 17 years as Chief Probation Officer in San Diego County and Santa Barbara County before coming to Riverside.

Smart City is a syndicated, weekly hour-long public radio talk show that takes an in-depth look at urban life: the people, places, ideas and trends that affect us all. Host Carol Coletta talks with national and international public policy experts, economists, business leaders, artists, developers, planners and others on the pulse of city life for a penetrating discussion on urban issues.

Smart City is broadcast at 6 a.m. Saturday and Sundays on WKNO-FM, but it is also webcast and podcast. For the webcast, times for the broadcast in other cities and to sign up for the podcast, visit the website.