Comments on: Teacher-Union Bashing Is Simpleminded http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/ Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:01:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Zippy the giver http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/comment-page-1/#comment-17616 Zippy the giver Sun, 29 Aug 2010 16:06:41 +0000 http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/?p=5289#comment-17616 http://teachersunionexposed.com/howtofire.cfm http://teachersunionexposed.com/howtofire.cfm

]]> By: Christopher Tutor http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/comment-page-1/#comment-16501 Christopher Tutor Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:18:21 +0000 http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/?p=5289#comment-16501 Interesting article. I agree with your arguments about morale, teacher pay, and longer schoolyears, but the fact remains that many public schools are not producing a quality product. A purely competitive market, with charters, private schools, and public schools competing for students would be a much better alternative. Economics 101 teaches us as much. There is also a sizable body of convincing statistical data. Exit question: would you be happy with just the US Postal Service (no UPS or FedEx)exclusively providing mail/package delivery. Why should it be any different with the education of our children? Interesting article. I agree with your arguments about morale, teacher pay, and longer schoolyears, but the fact remains that many public schools are not producing a quality product. A purely competitive market, with charters, private schools, and public schools competing for students would be a much better alternative. Economics 101 teaches us as much. There is also a sizable body of convincing statistical data. Exit question: would you be happy with just the US Postal Service (no UPS or FedEx)exclusively providing mail/package delivery. Why should it be any different with the education of our children?

]]> By: Brian Knight http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/comment-page-1/#comment-16049 Brian Knight Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:50:41 +0000 http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/?p=5289#comment-16049 And another thought: If the Union HERE is so good, where is the union's outrage at destructive and do nothing board decision? Where was the great show of support for good resolutions and the show of no support for stupid resolutions? Conspicuously missing! That's where. They don't show up at all. They are a do nothing union in a do nothing school system in a do nothing city government, one great waste of space and money Memphis presents itself to the world as. And where is the outrage of educators? MISSING IN ACTION. Mind you, there are some stars here that do buck the system and the operate under the radar, and a few that don't. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The union is as culpable as the board and the administration, conspiring against education and the children they are charged with educating. And another thought:
If the Union HERE is so good, where is the union’s outrage at destructive and do nothing board decision? Where was the great show of support for good resolutions and the show of no support for stupid resolutions?
Conspicuously missing! That’s where.
They don’t show up at all. They are a do nothing union in a do nothing school system in a do nothing city government, one great waste of space and money Memphis presents itself to the world as. And where is the outrage of educators?
MISSING IN ACTION.

Mind you, there are some stars here that do buck the system and the operate under the radar, and a few that don’t.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
The union is as culpable as the board and the administration, conspiring against education and the children they are charged with educating.

]]> By: Brian Knight http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/comment-page-1/#comment-16048 Brian Knight Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:38:07 +0000 http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/?p=5289#comment-16048 "Those interested in real reform should figure out how to work with teachers, not belittle and attack them." In Memphis, you have that exactly backwards. Wake up. Teachers here in most schools have absolutely no interest in working with parents. Example. My child was player at a school game, teacher was a coach of the team, and made some bad choices, belittled a player. Parent, who routinely volunteers stepped up and attempted to straighten it out, teacher stated that she doesn't have time to do "solution A" because she is busy calling parents about children's grades when they are falling. That was one big lie. My kid was in her class, previously straight A's, she brings home a D with no warning. We go to all school functions that they notify us about, but, since heir email, webpage, and apparently PHONE SYSTEM must not be working because we never got a not, and they, MCS, routinely give parents ONE DAY WARNING about impending school functions. Not good enough MCS, not god enough MEA, PISS POOR! If that is who your MEA union represents, if they condone that behavior, if the protect teachers who do that in MOST schools here, which the do, then hell no, bash away, get rid of them. They don't seem to be able to transcend the rules to make good outcomes as teachers or administration, they only bury the truth, get revenge, and hide whatever they can. Some union. There is no excuse for he failure of MCS, no excuse for the failure of he union to act in god faith for 90% of mCS schools. Sorry, no sympathy here. “Those interested in real reform should figure out how to work with teachers, not belittle and attack them.”

In Memphis, you have that exactly backwards. Wake up.
Teachers here in most schools have absolutely no interest in working with parents.
Example.
My child was player at a school game, teacher was a coach of the team, and made some bad choices, belittled a player. Parent, who routinely volunteers stepped up and attempted to straighten it out, teacher stated that she doesn’t have time to do “solution A” because she is busy calling parents about children’s grades when they are falling.
That was one big lie.
My kid was in her class, previously straight A’s, she brings home a D with no warning. We go to all school functions that they notify us about, but, since heir email, webpage, and apparently PHONE SYSTEM must not be working because we never got a not, and they, MCS, routinely give parents ONE DAY WARNING about impending school functions.
Not good enough MCS, not god enough MEA, PISS POOR!
If that is who your MEA union represents, if they condone that behavior, if the protect teachers who do that in MOST schools here, which the do, then hell no, bash away, get rid of them. They don’t seem to be able to transcend the rules to make good outcomes as teachers or administration, they only bury the truth, get revenge, and hide whatever they can.
Some union.
There is no excuse for he failure of MCS, no excuse for the failure of he union to act in god faith for 90% of mCS schools.
Sorry, no sympathy here.

]]> By: Brian Knight http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/comment-page-1/#comment-15997 Brian Knight Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:44:58 +0000 http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/?p=5289#comment-15997 I posted the wrong link before, http://www.amazon.com/new-paradigm-educational-change-Education/dp/B00093UFDA Cost ya $5.95 but it's worth $1billion/year. I posted the wrong link before,
http://www.amazon.com/new-paradigm-educational-change-Education/dp/B00093UFDA
Cost ya $5.95 but it’s worth $1billion/year.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/comment-page-1/#comment-15991 Anonymous Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:07:28 +0000 http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/?p=5289#comment-15991 >>>cut their pay and benefits When did that happen? >>>cut their pay and benefits

When did that happen?

]]> By: Zippy the giver http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/2010/07/teacher-union-bashing-is-simpleminded/comment-page-1/#comment-15989 Zippy the giver Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:55:32 +0000 http://www.smartcitymemphis.com/?p=5289#comment-15989 #1 How many examples of new education systems are there where their statistics for effectiveness are tallied? Just the one you shot down as far as I know. #2. Your article is nothing more than an attack on Charter Schools and for all the wrong reasons. Sort of a bait and switch, or a "rope a dope". #3. You should have expounded on the last two paragraphs more, those are the keys to YOUR Kingdom "for Memphis", not belittleing a belittler. If teacher's Pensions are really a problem here, there is something seriously wrong with the administration of those pensions. THERE IS SOME MEAT FOR REFORM. READ This by Robert Marzano.: http://www.memphisindie.com/Media/A%20new%20paradigm%20for%20educational%20change..pdf #1 How many examples of new education systems are there where their statistics for effectiveness are tallied? Just the one you shot down as far as I know.
#2. Your article is nothing more than an attack on Charter Schools and for all the wrong reasons. Sort of a bait and switch, or a “rope a dope”.
#3. You should have expounded on the last two paragraphs more, those are the keys to YOUR Kingdom “for Memphis”, not belittleing a belittler.
If teacher’s Pensions are really a problem here, there is something seriously wrong with the administration of those pensions.
THERE IS SOME MEAT FOR REFORM.

READ This by Robert Marzano.:

http://www.memphisindie.com/Media/A%20new%20paradigm%20for%20educational%20change..pdf

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